Exceptional Intelligence Minima for ECAO

Meeting the 1 in 5000 IQ level (most likely 1 in 30, 000 level in certain societies).

The exceptional general IQ requirement of 1 in 5000 is met in those cases. However, almost every test at this level is compromised because there is a lack of standardization of the population, a lack of a validity construct, misuse of current test interpretations (e.g. the various WAIS tests have limits at the 1 in 1500 or 1 in 2000 levels and are dubious over that level), idiosyncratic test devleopment, and most important, limited or no measures of creativity.

1.  Membership in High IQ societies at or above 1 in 15,000 where the member had to produce documentary evidence of IQ testing scores, provided this was achieved in an environment of supervision i.e., not open book setting. This is based on the likely strong correlation of profound logical skills with creative endeavor and even taking into account the standard errors of variation, the higher range should ensure a 1 in 5000 admission.  This category of how the test was administered may be reconsidered in individual cases only at the discretion of the Admissions Officer—this criterion is based on other demonstrations that this score tests what it purports to.

Admission tests for IQ.

Consequently, provisionally we will consider membership in the following societies all postulated t o admit those at the 1 in 30,000 and above:

Prometheus, HELLIQ, Olympiq,  Mega, Ultranet, Sigma IV or higher, Imhotep (Magister, Inspector, Mathemaicus, Philsoph)

We also consider Vertex becasue of the careful criteria and ISPE Philosophers (applying the 2012 Charter criteria).

More than one correlative test will help as we carefully examine source data and our decision is final. 

We regard the only adequate criterion for definite admission as the SCHIQ.  Nevertheless we're even careful there.  The 1 in 5000 requirement is  achieved by using the SCHIQ and where scores of at least 1 in 10,000 were attained (this allows room for error), or if 1 in 5000 by special review.

3. One in 5000 of the population may reflect beyond the  outer limit of measuring so-called IQ, although some tests claim to do so but these invariably measure some aspects of complex and difficult logic.  No matter how difficult this is, it still requires single answers or at most a few correct answers. This is so because the logic is necessarily ultimately convergent, whereas we regard the highest levels of intelligence as integrating creative divergent intelligence as well as convergent g-factors  and possibly s-factors. Effectively, this implies the Neppe c-factor, combined with the Spearman g-factor.  We believe other techniques may be required. See the tests below.

4. The 1 in 5000 requirement can also be used by evaluating members of current well-accepted 1 in 1000 societies (ISPE, TNS) and a 1 in 1400 society (ISI-S). These individuals would produce the documentary evidence they had produced, demonstrate the test basis was not an open book one, and then give evidence of sufficient creative endeavor to be assessed on the basis of a SCHIQ or a test that we have developed.


However, the ECAO (also called 5KIQ society) demands a far higher requirement than exceptional intelligence.
Full membership requires demonstrable achievement (as reflected by a minimum of Doctoral degree (or demonstrable equivalence and this may in rare instances not even require formal degrees or diplomas but equivalents can be achieved through publication and non-political honorary degrees) and creativity as demonstrated by specific demonstrable criteria. The educational requirement is a score of ≥60 equivalent and may be attainable with non-doctoral education plus publications or alternatively by exchanging creativity points  (0.75* creativity points) for education points.

These factors together should make members of ECAO / 5KIQS highly desirable commodities in the work-place as well as producing a self-challenge that is highly relevant.

Further intelligence testing comments

All intelligence tests that are quoted need to be approved. Sometimes it may be to individuals advantage to provide more than one test.

The following may give a perspective of why commonly a test is downgraded. E.g. 1 in 5000 score on the test, may only be acceptable at the 1 in 1000 level and often 1 in 10,000 or even 1 in 30,000 may be needed for the result to be accepted. These elements are considered::

Signficant  problem with many so-called high level batteries include:
1. potential to take it again and consequently have  learning effects. Internet tests have that problem unless there is some control (if there were a charge and a record this helpe  as it suggests that there is some control here and people are not likely to repetitively repeat).
2. limited range as happens with many culture free tests. For example, areas of stability like vocabulary etc don't occur with it, yet logic, shapes and mathematical elements may be included to the exclusion of other areas.
3. sometimes there are some ambiguities in the tests and the answers: Most frequently it may be a matter of opinion what the correct answer is.
4. standardization is difficult  even if there were sufficient subjects (almost always not) because  the gold standard to measure the test by may not exist.
5. time controls are partly dependent on Internet connection.
6. tests with results may have tables or histograms. For example, for 1 in 5000 SD 15 one needs to score say 155 . How many candidates scored at or above that limit ?  Does one need a correction?  Now 6 scored that, and 14 above.

More than one test covering different areas assists. The more tests the better.
We have little doubt that the most accurate of the tests of very exceptional intelligence could be  the SCHIQ if proprerly performed. But the problem there is it's limited to child prodigies at present, and historical data may not be adequately validated.

Other exceptional IQ society memberships may help becasue depending on the group, it may reflect certain stringencies.
The individual should always attach a resume/ curriculum vitae.



Intelligence requirements

1 in 5000 IQ (Statistically IQ testing at 1 in 5000 level based on formal testing or close to that (IQ > 3.2 SD on a formal test which had limitations e.g. maximum score, untested limits, but judged to be far above that level clinically (to allow margin of error) based on creative or other achievement in childhood or adulthood (judged by at least two individuals with doctorates in a psychological linked area and special skills in intelligence evaluations).

These scores are provisional and may change without prejudice, if found to be in error. However, those admitted prior to the change, would be grandfathered in.

  • Intelligence of 1 in 5000 comments:
  • We have chosen 5K because we don't believe conventional IQ testing including high IQ modifications can measure beyond that because creativity results in divergent thinking.
  • IQ = 153 (SD =15) technically falls minimally below the cut off of 1 in 5000 but is acceptable.
  • Technically, if you look at integers:
  • 99.9816290270% 1 in 5,443 157 SD 16
  • 99.9840854286% 1 in 6,284 154 SD 15
  • IQ 153 works out at 1 in 4873 but usually 153 would pass given the limitations of upper levels of IQ testing.
  • Criteria: 1 in 5000; SD ≥3.54
  • Stanford-Binet = IQ 157
  • Cattell = IQ 186
  • Wechsler = IQ 154
  • GRE V + Q = 1532
  • SAT before 1995 = 1520.
  • Childhood mental age achievement scores of 160.
  • Any test recognized by Prometheus Society or ISPE or ISI-S but reaching the minima scores required.
  • Alternative admissions recognize limitations of upper levels of testing.
  • This would make all ISI-S members eligible for further application.
  • Testing of SD≥3.2 so SD of 15 of 148 ( 1 in 1455) or SD 16 of 151 (1 in 1394 ) or Cattell of 177 ( 1 in about 1500) or chronology of 152 requires evaluation of admission of the candidate who should exhibit further evidence of exceptional childhood or adolescent skill and milestones suggesting going far beyond SD 3.4 or exceptional creative adult achievement as attested by at least 2 experts in that field. In exceptional cases this can be extended into adulthood. (this done by applicant and testified to by 2 independent witnesses and ranked >4d approaching 5d so there is no doubt) (examples now follow).
  • Under exceptional circumstances, those with PhDs or other Doctorates, who have never been tested, but clinically appear above 5d may be admitted. (These interpretations must be based on 2 PhDs who have expertise in Psychology and in the area of Intelligence who have examined the information supplied in detail.
  • Any assessments involve a one time application, unanimous decision, final without appeal. Documentation should demonstrate why the subject demonstrated such exceptional creative skill as to be admissible using the possible >5d clause i.e. without a doubt).
  • There are no IQ tests and I believe none can be structured with fixed answers to measure 1 in 5000 intelligence. Tests are convergent, and many skills at that level should also be divergent as well as demonstrated ability for convergent skills. We also do not have the population base to standardize the tests, and even if we did what validity can we ascribe to the results? How do we compare them? Moreover, the data is not bearing out a normally distributed Bell curve. Some studies are arguing that there may be 8 times as many people at 4d (roughly 1 in 30,000) than there should be. Also the correlation of s with g at that level is not good.
  • One current opinion that our board subscribes to is that we cannot conventionally measure IQ beyond 3.4d with current convergent tests.

We are using the SCHIQ as a way of evaluating the individual based on histories. I have introduced a new measure c for creativity.

SCHIQ = Standardized, Corrected, Historical IQ. This appears to be more accurate than most or even all the current measures of exceptional intelligence. ‘

This is motivated because.

The different ways to try to measure high IQ have major limitations beyond about 3.2 to 3.4 d.

This allows a standard way of acquiring pertinent historical information to supplement knowledge specifically evaluating individuals who have demonstrated >1 in 1000 level IQ but could not be measured as higher because of limitations of the testing, or limitations of the tester. This technique would allow it. Based on our initial pilot study, we believe the SCHIQ allows a legitimate way of measuring intelligence at these high levels.

As the SCHIQ is still being evaluated, we are allowing a larger standard error so that ≥4d will qualify (i.e. equivalent of 1 in 30,000 or IQ≥160 using the SD of 15).


1 in 1000 cutoffs

Associates require a 1 in 1000 IQ demonstrable.
In addition to the SCHIQ, as above, but with a 1 in 1000 cut-off so requiring taking into account standard error, so that a 1 in 5000 equivalent as above is required, we are using the exact admission requirements of the ISPE (www.thethousand.com) as follows.


Qualifying Scores

Tests of intellectual ability include both intelligence quotient (I.Q.) and scholastic aptitude tests, for which examples of acceptable tests and qualifying scores are provided below. The list is not a complete list of the tests accepted by the ISPE.

College Aptitude Tests Scores

Admissions Test for Graduate Study in Business (ATGSB)
(Replaced by the GMAT.)

GMAT 746
Graduate Record Examination (GRE) 727 average of scores
LSAT 178 (764 before 1991)

32 (prior to 1989 re-norming)

33 (1989 and after)

Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT)
taken prior to April 1995 recentering
752 average of scores
Military Tests Scores
U.S. Army General Classification Test (AGCT) if taken prior to 1976 157 raw score
NGCT (1941 and 1943 only) 97
NGCT (1948 to 1953 only) 78
NGCT (1944 to 1947 and 1954 to 1977 only) 74
Other Tests Scores
Binet L/Binet M 151
Binet LM 149
California Test of Mental Maturity (CTMM) 149
Cattell Culture Fair 172
Cattell Verbal 172
Concept Mastery 160
Miller Analogies Test (MAT) 471 Scaled Score
Otis Alpha 159
Otis Gamma 148
Otis Lennon 149
Raven Advanced Progressive Matrices (Set II) 35 raw (40 minute test period: 60 minute period not accepted)
Terman C.M.T. 157
Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale ( and WAIS-R, WAIS-III) 146 (full IQ)

ISPE Self-Administered Test


Qualifying scores are subject to change as tests are modified over the years or as the norming process is reiterated.